character sets, sort order, collations

Just trying to determine character set and sort order for a couple servers.
I see that the output for sp_helpsort has changed, such that it used to be
more helpful than it is now. I guess it changed at some point. On a SQL 7
system, I can easily get the charset and sortorder (below), as well as a
listing of the characters in order.
Character Set = 1, iso_1
ISO 8859-1 (Latin-1) - Western European 8-bit character set.
Sort Order = 52, nocase_iso
Case-insensitive dictionary sort order for use with several We
stern-European languages including English, French, and German
. Uses the ISO 8859-1 character set.
Alternatively, EXEC sp_serverinfo 18: charset=iso_1 sort_order=nocase_iso
charset_num=1 sort_order_num=52
But on some SQL 2000 systems, sp_helpsort returns:
Latin1-General, case-insensitive, accent-sensitive, kanatype-insensitive,
width-insensitive
And EXEC sp_server_info 18: charset=iso_1 collation=Latin1_General_CI_AS
How do I confirm that newer systems are 72 - nocase_1252 rather than 52 -
nocase_iso when such descriptive output isn't provided any more?
Dale.these might be of help:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/instsql/in_collation_3oa6.asp
select *
from ::fn_helpcollations()
-oj
<Dale Kerr> wrote in message news:%23GKAhQovFHA.3152@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Just trying to determine character set and sort order for a couple
> servers. I see that the output for sp_helpsort has changed, such that it
> used to be more helpful than it is now. I guess it changed at some point.
> On a SQL 7 system, I can easily get the charset and sortorder (below), as
> well as a listing of the characters in order.
> Character Set = 1, iso_1
> ISO 8859-1 (Latin-1) - Western European 8-bit character set.
> Sort Order = 52, nocase_iso
> Case-insensitive dictionary sort order for use with several We
> stern-European languages including English, French, and German
> . Uses the ISO 8859-1 character set.
> Alternatively, EXEC sp_serverinfo 18: charset=iso_1 sort_order=nocase_iso
> charset_num=1 sort_order_num=52
> But on some SQL 2000 systems, sp_helpsort returns:
> Latin1-General, case-insensitive, accent-sensitive, kanatype-insensitive,
> width-insensitive
> And EXEC sp_server_info 18: charset=iso_1 collation=Latin1_General_CI_AS
> How do I confirm that newer systems are 72 - nocase_1252 rather than 52 -
> nocase_iso when such descriptive output isn't provided any more?
> Dale.
>|||Cheers, I'll see if I can get my head around it.
"oj" <nospam_ojngo@.home.com> wrote in message
news:O4k18covFHA.2880@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> these might be of help:
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/instsql/in_collation_3oa6.asp
> select *
> from ::fn_helpcollations()

character sets, sort order, collations

Just trying to determine character set and sort order for a couple servers.
I see that the output for sp_helpsort has changed, such that it used to be
more helpful than it is now. I guess it changed at some point. On a SQL 7
system, I can easily get the charset and sortorder (below), as well as a
listing of the characters in order.
Character Set = 1, iso_1
ISO 8859-1 (Latin-1) - Western European 8-bit character set.
Sort Order = 52, nocase_iso
Case-insensitive dictionary sort order for use with several We
stern-European languages including English, French, and German
. Uses the ISO 8859-1 character set.
Alternatively, EXEC sp_serverinfo 18: charset=iso_1 sort_order=nocase_iso
charset_num=1 sort_order_num=52
But on some SQL 2000 systems, sp_helpsort returns:
Latin1-General, case-insensitive, accent-sensitive, kanatype-insensitive,
width-insensitive
And EXEC sp_server_info 18: charset=iso_1 collation=Latin1_General_CI_AS
How do I confirm that newer systems are 72 - nocase_1252 rather than 52 -
nocase_iso when such descriptive output isn't provided any more?
Dale.these might be of help:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/e...lation_3oa6.asp
select *
from ::fn_helpcollations()
-oj
<Dale Kerr> wrote in message news:%23GKAhQovFHA.3152@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Just trying to determine character set and sort order for a couple
> servers. I see that the output for sp_helpsort has changed, such that it
> used to be more helpful than it is now. I guess it changed at some point.
> On a SQL 7 system, I can easily get the charset and sortorder (below), as
> well as a listing of the characters in order.
> Character Set = 1, iso_1
> ISO 8859-1 (Latin-1) - Western European 8-bit character set.
> Sort Order = 52, nocase_iso
> Case-insensitive dictionary sort order for use with several We
> stern-European languages including English, French, and German
> . Uses the ISO 8859-1 character set.
> Alternatively, EXEC sp_serverinfo 18: charset=iso_1 sort_order=nocase_iso
> charset_num=1 sort_order_num=52
> But on some SQL 2000 systems, sp_helpsort returns:
> Latin1-General, case-insensitive, accent-sensitive, kanatype-insensitive,
> width-insensitive
> And EXEC sp_server_info 18: charset=iso_1 collation=Latin1_General_CI_AS
> How do I confirm that newer systems are 72 - nocase_1252 rather than 52 -
> nocase_iso when such descriptive output isn't provided any more?
> Dale.
>|||Cheers, I'll see if I can get my head around it.
"oj" <nospam_ojngo@.home.com> wrote in message
news:O4k18covFHA.2880@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> these might be of help:
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/e...lation_3oa6.asp
> select *
> from ::fn_helpcollations()

character sets, sort order, collations

Just trying to determine character set and sort order for a couple servers.
I see that the output for sp_helpsort has changed, such that it used to be
more helpful than it is now. I guess it changed at some point. On a SQL 7
system, I can easily get the charset and sortorder (below), as well as a
listing of the characters in order.
Character Set = 1, iso_1
ISO 8859-1 (Latin-1) - Western European 8-bit character set.
Sort Order = 52, nocase_iso
Case-insensitive dictionary sort order for use with several We
stern-European languages including English, French, and German
. Uses the ISO 8859-1 character set.
Alternatively, EXEC sp_serverinfo 18: charset=iso_1 sort_order=nocase_iso
charset_num=1 sort_order_num=52
But on some SQL 2000 systems, sp_helpsort returns:
Latin1-General, case-insensitive, accent-sensitive, kanatype-insensitive,
width-insensitive
And EXEC sp_server_info 18: charset=iso_1 collation=Latin1_General_CI_AS
How do I confirm that newer systems are 72 - nocase_1252 rather than 52 -
nocase_iso when such descriptive output isn't provided any more?
Dale.
these might be of help:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...ation_3oa6.asp
select *
from ::fn_helpcollations()
-oj
<Dale Kerr> wrote in message news:%23GKAhQovFHA.3152@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Just trying to determine character set and sort order for a couple
> servers. I see that the output for sp_helpsort has changed, such that it
> used to be more helpful than it is now. I guess it changed at some point.
> On a SQL 7 system, I can easily get the charset and sortorder (below), as
> well as a listing of the characters in order.
> Character Set = 1, iso_1
> ISO 8859-1 (Latin-1) - Western European 8-bit character set.
> Sort Order = 52, nocase_iso
> Case-insensitive dictionary sort order for use with several We
> stern-European languages including English, French, and German
> . Uses the ISO 8859-1 character set.
> Alternatively, EXEC sp_serverinfo 18: charset=iso_1 sort_order=nocase_iso
> charset_num=1 sort_order_num=52
> But on some SQL 2000 systems, sp_helpsort returns:
> Latin1-General, case-insensitive, accent-sensitive, kanatype-insensitive,
> width-insensitive
> And EXEC sp_server_info 18: charset=iso_1 collation=Latin1_General_CI_AS
> How do I confirm that newer systems are 72 - nocase_1252 rather than 52 -
> nocase_iso when such descriptive output isn't provided any more?
> Dale.
>
|||Cheers, I'll see if I can get my head around it.
"oj" <nospam_ojngo@.home.com> wrote in message
news:O4k18covFHA.2880@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> these might be of help:
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...ation_3oa6.asp
> select *
> from ::fn_helpcollations()